Get free of the IRS.
Kirk Carmichael on Pat and Jeff's interview show — twice. Once on the deception, and once on what it takes to actually unwind it.
- 2
- Interviews
- 6
- Deceptions decoded
- 17+
- Years tax-free
The lines you've heard your whole life. Open one.
Pat and Jeff pull the standard IRS framings into the open. Tap a card to see how Kirk re-frames it on the show.
Watch both episodes on Rumble.
Each card opens the full episode on rumble.com in a new tab — both videos are hosted there.
- Rumble · Pat & JeffEpisode 02
Get Free of the IRS!
How independent research and lived experience reshape what compliance even means.
Kirk's second appearance on Jeff's interview show. The conversation goes wider — how careful reading of legal language compares to common interpretations, and why critical thinking is the prerequisite to acting on any of this.
Watch on RumbleTopics discussed- How independent research and lived experience shape one's view of compliance and authority.
- Reading legal language carefully — and whether common interpretations match statutory intent.
- Why critical thinking matters when consuming media on tax and legal topics.
- Rumble · Pat & JeffEpisode 01
How to Beat the IRS Deception!
Voluntary compliance — how it actually operates, and how to opt out.
The founding interview. Pat and Jeff walk Kirk through the question the IRS doesn't want clearly answered: who is the income tax actually for, and what is the mechanism by which someone becomes subject to it?
Watch on RumbleTopics discussed- Voluntary compliance and how it operates inside the modern tax system.
- Jurisdiction — who the IRS actually has authority over, and under what conditions.
- How filings, signatures, and elections can establish legal positions people don't realize they're taking.
The papers behind the answers.
Every claim on the show traces back to something in writing. Three documents that cover the bulk of it — workbook, tax posture, and the contract itself.
The FAQ Workbook
The exact questions Pat and Jeff kept hammering — with the legal references behind the answers.
Tax-Positioning Brochure
A printable summary of the 575-E tax posture — the doc Kirk points to when “voluntary compliance” comes up.
UA Member Agreement
The member agreement template — the actual contract that anchors the framework on the show.
Two interviews so far — Pat and Jeff keep the conversation going between drops.
The same conversation, live, Monday through Saturday.
Pat and Jeff covered the wide-angle. The 10AM Q&A is where Kirk walks through the specifics for the people on the call. Show up with the part of the interview that landed.